tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post181866537773532471..comments2024-03-27T14:13:14.579-04:00Comments on DOUBLE CROSS: Mark Holcomb - Undertow/Shift part VIIDOUBLE CROSShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02894060297863887810noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-46406236520673780502011-09-23T04:39:01.904-04:002011-09-23T04:39:01.904-04:00I don't know how many of You are following
Cr...I don't know how many of You are following<br /> Cro-Mags on facebook. John Joseph posted two links on 9/11 and after some interesting comments done by few people he removed the links. <br />quote "What happened to that link? Did you pull it...and if so, why? It was getting pretty hot in there...good stuff!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-6353472803115038622011-09-21T18:57:51.961-04:002011-09-21T18:57:51.961-04:00Boys and girls of hardcore hobby scouts groups all...Boys and girls of hardcore hobby scouts groups all around the world.<br />Seems that you are simple don't have any knowledge of physics,chemistry and math. If you still believe in 9/11 Commission Report do yourself a favour go back and enrol to you local primary school again.<br />You still have a chance to learn something<br />9/11 WAS NUCLEAR DEMOLITION and there is no question about it.Period!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-51923569315387843202011-09-19T16:11:57.580-04:002011-09-19T16:11:57.580-04:00lousy & very dumb interview concerning 9/11.
...lousy & very dumb interview concerning 9/11.<br /><br />just another proof how dumb the ordinary american citizen is.<br /><br />poor america.<br /><br />keep on believing your governments lies. bush, obama it's all the same.... all the same.<br /><br />fuck the usa!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-57179704574765853322011-09-19T05:44:37.556-04:002011-09-19T05:44:37.556-04:00Ben, good points all around. Yes, a good interview...Ben, good points all around. Yes, a good interviewer doesn't need to dominate an interview and prevent people from following their own take on what matters in a band's/person's history. However, this is a SEHC site, not Rolling Stone, and I guess as one of many readers here who is straight-edge (and still into HC, not mainstream rock) and was before Mark, and definitey after Mark, it matters to have former SE band members talk about that point. I wouldn't push the issue with HC bands who never fell into that category. However with former SE folks this point of growing up and moving on meaning drinking/drugs etc... I just don't buy it. This gets right back to that key issue in SE: a rejection of drugs/alcohol as part of the 'life package'. Outside of SEHC adulthood is commonly defined as being about socializing through booze, about real men (pardon me ladies)growing up and getting loaded. So what the fuck, where is the SEHC attitude here? <br /><br />Anyways, just rambling at this point. As I always tell my kid, "I'm old and straight and alert", and disappointed that other old-timers aren't keeping up the edge. It still matters! <br />Good job on the interview. I hope to see more from you on DCXX.ShayKMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-43360990920727558292011-09-17T19:47:20.763-04:002011-09-17T19:47:20.763-04:00This is a great interview.
Regardless of Underto...This is a great interview. <br /><br />Regardless of Undertow's standing in terms of HC history, this is well done and an interesting read.<br /><br />Booked a show or two for Undertow when Seth and James were in the band (their high point, in my opinion.) They were always super solid dudes. Played with them in WI on tour one year, and again, I was stoked to see them.<br /><br />Anyway, great job with the interview.Scott T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-34930147977163102202011-09-17T17:21:21.312-04:002011-09-17T17:21:21.312-04:00This part is sooo unnecessary.
And The first Anon...This part is sooo unnecessary. <br />And The first Anonymous refers to no Plane Theory and such things, where, as someone who claims to be hardcorepunk, all of you should at least rethink and reconsider. <br />So many lyrics, shouting and screaming against the media bul*shit and lies, and on 9/11 issue seems like everyone is believing it, without questioning. Just go watch September Clues etc...<br />And Undertow and Shift were great bands, interesting and everything, just not this much interesting....XLooseXChangeXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-58976655394223309932011-09-17T02:17:47.687-04:002011-09-17T02:17:47.687-04:00ShayKM,
Thanks for staying with the interview. W...ShayKM,<br /><br />Thanks for staying with the interview. What "hard questions" should I have asked Mark? Be as specific as possible.<br /><br />I tried to keep the questions open ended, and not charged, so I wouldn't steer the subject into talking about whatever I wanted him to say. If I ask someone, "Why did you start drinking?" and he/she gives me an answer that you perceive as a cop out, there's only so far I can push the issue before it becomes redundant and stale. <br /><br />I think Mark was really clear about saying that he felt like he was headed in that direction well before 9/11. He made certain choices in his life based on his own rationale that may not make sense to you or me, but not everyone arrives at the same conclusions in life. That's what makes us all different. I just tried to give him ground to speak his mind. <br /><br />If I said, "Come on man! That's just a ridiculous reason to start drinking," or "That makes no sense," then the interview ceases to be about him, and it turns into an argument between me and him. A lot of things make no sense to me and are ridiculous to me, but I think it's still important to document them.Ben Edgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08322170640778424533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-6519867717161666362011-09-16T04:41:51.841-04:002011-09-16T04:41:51.841-04:00Hey Ben,
Good job on the interview. It has defini...Hey Ben,<br /><br />Good job on the interview. It has definitely gone in unusual directions. The question that stills seems most relevant to me is how being SE seemed to lose value as Mark got older. This is the basic theme of so many in HC who drop the edge: Age+Boredom+Hardship+etc... = Drinking/Drugs. You get the point, and I'm sure you've seen it dozens of times. So, where are the hard questions for Mark? It seems like a cop out to just link 9/11 to a serious change in lifestyle/philosophy and leave it at that. I mean no disrespect to him, I just want to see some clear thought on that point. After all, this is one of the longest fucking interviews I have ever read! <br /><br />PS, just ignore the conspiracy theory garbage posted by anonymous.ShayKMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-12048327870109444632011-09-15T09:01:02.781-04:002011-09-15T09:01:02.781-04:00It's simple
punk/hc equals bolshevism.
ideolog...It's simple<br />punk/hc equals bolshevism.<br />ideology of marx,lenin and stalin <br />its like a hobby nothing more.<br />spoiled brats.<br />don't help each otherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-78802197839827676632011-09-14T21:24:45.185-04:002011-09-14T21:24:45.185-04:00"I kind of reached the point where I didn'..."I kind of reached the point where I didn't think it was all that important to not experience other things."<br /><br />If anyone knows what the hell Mark is talking about, please chime in.Ibid.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-78170316877506115192011-09-14T09:00:56.822-04:002011-09-14T09:00:56.822-04:00the wedding Mark references were he said he was so...the wedding Mark references were he said he was so unhappy with his marriage, was my wedding. July 7, 2001.... I thought everyone had a good time! Hell, I fired a cannon from the revolutionary war at it!Justin Suburbannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-20286969301114350922011-09-13T21:50:11.848-04:002011-09-13T21:50:11.848-04:00I do believe Anonymous is retarded.I do believe Anonymous is retarded.Doug Seymornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-53651305831234746352011-09-13T20:49:59.108-04:002011-09-13T20:49:59.108-04:00If anyone knows what the hell Anonymous is talking...If anyone knows what the hell Anonymous is talking about, please chime in.Ben Edgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08322170640778424533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2768432211492653817.post-36443905986941820602011-09-13T19:36:11.780-04:002011-09-13T19:36:11.780-04:00I saw Undertow,Shift and dozen of other HC bands b...I saw Undertow,Shift and dozen of other HC bands back in the days.I even went on my own to see NFAA/mean season.<br />But now I can tell You I was bullshited with all of it. Thats crap.<br />You can not even say straight and loud what you think about 9/11 . Telling everyone that arabs did it.<br />Are you afraid to be a laughingstock.<br />Once and for all. They didn't do it. Are you blind ? All of Y O U .<br />HC my ass. Cowards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com